Comments on: Exxon/Mobil Guilty of Climate Change Coverup. Now Ordered Out of Torrance 3 Years Sooner. http://creativegreenius.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/exxonmobil-guilty-of-climate-change-coverup-now-ordered-out-of-torrance-3-years-sooner/ A Brighter Shade of Green Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:22:01 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Erik http://creativegreenius.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/exxonmobil-guilty-of-climate-change-coverup-now-ordered-out-of-torrance-3-years-sooner/#comment-337 Erik Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:07:12 +0000 http://creativegreenius.wordpress.com/?p=2538#comment-337 Other than working the city council, what sorts of tactics are you going to employ? <em><strong>Greenius</strong>: First off, Erik, I dig your oganic wood furniture. We've seen a few different tactics work successfully. One is legislative and involves tougher cap and trade rules for major greenhouse gas emitters. <a href="http://www.energy-business-review.com/news/exxonmobil_could_shut_down_altona_refinery_on_introduction_of_emissions_scheme?print=1" rel="nofollow">Exxon/Mobil has threatened to shut down their Altona refinery in the Australian state of Victoria following the introduction of carbon emissions trading.</a> Exxon/Mobil claimed that under the new regulations it would not be able to compete with overseas competitors who are not required to pay for emissions. Another strong tactic against Exxon/Mobil is a class action legal suit. <a href="http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress.nsf/d0cf6618525a9efb85257359003fb69d/5bd0a39067c3231b85257522006cc74c!OpenDocument" rel="nofollow">Just six months ago Exxon/Mobil was forced to pay nearly $6.1 million in additional civil penalties for violating sulfur emission rules here in Torrance.</a> Those penalties were paid because Exxon was guilty by the US Justice Department of cheating and lying about their emissions after the EPA found them guilty of exceeding sulpur dioxide limits. Exxon/Mobil paid $7.7 million in 2005 the first time they got caught emitting criminal levels of air pollution. They were also ordered to perform an additional $6.7 million in supplemental environmental projects in communities like Torrance. There are still other avenues under consideration that I'm not going to reveal publicly at this time, but there are plenty of ways to get rid of a bad neighbor who performs criminal activities in your neighborhood, who trashes the property and who ruins the air everyone in the neighborhood breathes and then lies about doing it.</em> Other than working the city council, what sorts of tactics are you going to employ?

Greenius:
First off, Erik, I dig your oganic wood furniture.

We’ve seen a few different tactics work successfully. One is legislative and involves tougher cap and trade rules for major greenhouse gas emitters. Exxon/Mobil has threatened to shut down their Altona refinery in the Australian state of Victoria following the introduction of carbon emissions trading. Exxon/Mobil claimed that under the new regulations it would not be able to compete with overseas competitors who are not required to pay for emissions.

Another strong tactic against Exxon/Mobil is a class action legal suit. Just six months ago Exxon/Mobil was forced to pay nearly $6.1 million in additional civil penalties for violating sulfur emission rules here in Torrance. Those penalties were paid because Exxon was guilty by the US Justice Department of cheating and lying about their emissions after the EPA found them guilty of exceeding sulpur dioxide limits. Exxon/Mobil paid $7.7 million in 2005 the first time they got caught emitting criminal levels of air pollution. They were also ordered to perform an additional $6.7 million in supplemental environmental projects in communities like Torrance.

There are still other avenues under consideration that I’m not going to reveal publicly at this time, but there are plenty of ways to get rid of a bad neighbor who performs criminal activities in your neighborhood, who trashes the property and who ruins the air everyone in the neighborhood breathes and then lies about doing it.

]]> By: geetha http://creativegreenius.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/exxonmobil-guilty-of-climate-change-coverup-now-ordered-out-of-torrance-3-years-sooner/#comment-336 geetha Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:58:38 +0000 http://creativegreenius.wordpress.com/?p=2538#comment-336 I am so tired of hearing what dirty business Exxon Mobil is up to next. A corporation representing the true evilness of what a corporation can embody. It's one issue of contention when Exxon Mobil can invade the global south and leave areas in absolute peril but to continue endangering the lives of people in Torrance is another issue all together. We are supposed to live in a democratic country where our lives are to be protected and our voices are supposed to count. Unfortunately, what's happening in Torrance is a perfect example of how corporations like Exxon Mobil are able to manipulate the system for profits. Together, let's put them to shame by voting them into Corporate Accountability International's "Corporate Hall of Shame". Please take the time to vote for this corporation! http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2215/t/8981/signUp.jsp?key=4278 <em><strong>Greenius</strong>: Thanks geetha, and I couldn't agree more with you. I voted for Exxon/Mobil in the Corporate Hall of Shame poll you provided the link for, but I'm afraid that the people who work for Exxon/Mobil and run its corporation don't have any shame. They were born with a shame bypass which allows them to live with themselves and feel good about what they do despite the harm and destruction they're responsible for. Having no concept of shame is one thing that makes Exxon/Mobil such a successful greenwasher and master of the global warming denier cult.</em> I am so tired of hearing what dirty business Exxon Mobil is up to next. A corporation representing the true evilness of what a corporation can embody. It’s one issue of contention when Exxon Mobil can invade the global south and leave areas in absolute peril but to continue endangering the lives of people in Torrance is another issue all together.

We are supposed to live in a democratic country where our lives are to be protected and our voices are supposed to count. Unfortunately, what’s happening in Torrance is a perfect example of how corporations like Exxon Mobil are able to manipulate the system for profits.

Together, let’s put them to shame by voting them into Corporate Accountability International’s “Corporate Hall of Shame”. Please take the time to vote for this corporation!
http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2215/t/8981/signUp.jsp?key=4278

Greenius:
Thanks geetha, and I couldn’t agree more with you. I voted for Exxon/Mobil in the Corporate Hall of Shame poll you provided the link for, but I’m afraid that the people who work for Exxon/Mobil and run its corporation don’t have any shame. They were born with a shame bypass which allows them to live with themselves and feel good about what they do despite the harm and destruction they’re responsible for. Having no concept of shame is one thing that makes Exxon/Mobil such a successful greenwasher and master of the global warming denier cult.

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